“THE HARBINGER”, A FORBIDDEN FABLE (Nine aspects in Biblical Discernment)
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LETS LOOK PAST “THE HARBINGER” AND SEE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT DISCERNMENT. Discernment is being discussed from a very negative viewpoint because of this book. People love discernment as long as it’s something they do not believe or love. When someone get infatuated with anything, book, preacher, song ,etc, then discernment becomes an enemy. One person this week called discerning, “engaging in blood sport”. She apologized because she once was involved in this kind of ministry. SAD! That is what the New Wine crowd like Rick Joyner call discernment. Nobody will mind discernment if they have nothing to hide. That is why every Post from this ministry is open to your comments. I enjoy people picking apart what I write or preach.
DISCERNMENT MUST FOLLOW A BIBLICAL COURSE:
1. Nothing can be taken out of the context.
2. All interpretation of Scripture must be confirmed by other Scriptures on the same subject.
3. Types or symbols will always be identified by other places in the Holy Bible. (Four beasts in Revelation four are called Living Creatures in Ezekiel one.)
4. The plain sense of the Word.
5. Always interpret the Word of God literal. (A type in Scripture is taken literally after you determine it’s meaning by the Bible,)
6. The characteristics of the Occult are never to be confused with God’s Divine action.
7. The moment a psychic action is embraced or witnessed you know it’s false.
8. Paranormal is never equated with the Holy Ghost.
9. The use of Scripture must never be the single means of discernment. (All false prophets use Scripture to
fool their subjects.
The Holy Bible plainly forbids the use of mysterious fables or magical stories to teach Holy Scripture. A fable is strikingly different from a fiction book. A normal fiction is true to life experiences. It simply tells a real story with the use of fictional experiences and people. A fable involves the strange worlds of mysticism and psychic experiences. It also takes the paranormal and tries to make it normal. “The Harbinger” is a fable, or worse, it is a fairytale.
Holy Scripture is extremely plain about the use of fables in concurrence with the Bible. In his first letter, Timothy warned the believers about this work of Satan. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.” (2 Timothy 4: 3-5) Fables are a big focus of the world and especially of the spiritualistic subcultures.
For our education of fables, let’s look at Barnes’ notes on the above scripture. “Neither give heed to fables – That is, that they should not bestow their attention on fables, or regard such trifles as of importance. The “fables” here referred to were probably the idle and puerile superstitions and conceits of the Jewish rabbis. The word rendered “fable” (μῦθος: muthos) means properly “speech” or “discourse,” and then fable or fiction, or a mystic discourse. Such things abounded among the Greeks as well as the Jews, but it is probable that the latter here are particularly intended. These were composed of frivolous and unfounded stories, which they regarded as of great importance, and which they seem to have desired to incorporate with the teachings of Christianity. Paul, who had been brought up amidst these superstitions, saw at once how they would tend to draw off the mind from the truth, and would corrupt the true religion. One of the most successful arts of the adversary of souls has been to mingle fable with truth; and when he cannot overthrow the truth by direct opposition, to neutralize it by mingling with it much that is false and frivolous.” (Barnes Notes on the Bible, Exposition Commentary Volume VI, 1 Timothy 1:4)
Warren Wiersbe astutely observes “It is not likely that man-made fables will convict them of sin or make them want to repent! The result is a congregation of comfortable, professing Christians, listening to a comfortable, religious talk that contains no Bible doctrine. These people become the prey of every false cult because their lives lack a foundation in the Word of God. It is a recognized fact that most cultists were formerly members of churches. (Wiersbe, W: Bible Exposition Commentary, 2 Timothy 4:4)
The Strong’s concordance was even stronger, ”Neither give heed to fables – Idle fancies; things of no moment; doctrines and opinions unauthenticated; silly legends, of which no people ever possessed a greater stock than the Jews. Their Talmud abounds with them; and the English reader may find them in abundance in Stehlin’s Jewish Traditions, 2 vols. 8vo.” Then he defined the word Fables (3454: Muthos). “Muthos refers to tales (a tale is a usually imaginative narrative of an event that often contains imagined or exaggerated elements) or fables (a fable can refer to a short fictitious story which teaches a moral lesson but in the NT fable is used only in a negative sense as something to be avoided because it is false and unreal) fabricated by the mind in contrast to reality. Muthos therefore refers to fictional tales in contrast to true accounts and represents manufactured stories that have no basis in fact. The Greek and Roman world abounded in stories about so-called “gods” which were nothing more than human speculations that in vain (and in error) tried to explain the world’s origin and life’s purpose and end!” (Clarke’s Commentary Volume VI, 1 Timothy 1:4)
There is no question but the Bible forbids fables. “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.” (I Timothy 1:4) “But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.” (I Timothy 4:7) “Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” (Titus 1:14) “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” ( II Peter 1:16)
As we have learned more and more about this book, “The Harbinger”. it has becomes clear that it is a fable. It has really raised red flags of warning. Nothing in this book is believable. The Prophet is a fictional character, which means that his prophecies are also fictional. The entire book is called fictional except for his unfounded use of the Scripture. The documentations in the book are woven around the seals and harbingers in a style that creates a fabricated story or a fable. We call it a fable because the book is written around psychic activities and not the true Spiritual real world.
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Sue Bradley
I have been following the fascinating Isaiah 9 prophecy first presented by Jonathan Cahn in 2005. I wrote an article, The Watchmen, 911 and the Harbingers in 2008, and a followup shortly thereafter in 2009 (“Update”), and currently just about the wrap up the final and closing chapter to the original article, which will be published within the next few days by Steve Quayle and Tom Horn at Raiders News.
This article, which is written in non-fiction format as the Word mandates, needs no embellishment, and I concur with your observation and much needed discernment in this area. Responses to the article focused on two specific points:
1. The obvious ease in reading with all active and easily identified sources;
2. The use of the title “Rabbi” in violation of Sacred Scripture, Matthew 23:8. The website, Heaven Waits* has an exquisite analysis of this to which I am linking.
3. George Washington’s status as a Mason and the attendant associations. The explanation of course, is that in his Inaugural Address on April 30, 1989, President Washington specifically used the Name, Jesus, not His title. It is the Name that God honors, not the man. The text of both Inaugural speeches are linked on the original article.
Warm blessings,
Sue
melvin
jrc i see your still a baby christian. Baby don’t like it when they don’t get their ways. You still keep pagan beliefs as sunday sabbath, easter and christmas. What I heard on yoputube from the Harbinger all scripture. For judgement is coming to the USA. Greek thinking is just a line thinking that once it happen it done. But Hebrew thinking is circle thinking. It keep happening. The 5 books of Moses is more importent then the new testament. Because the new testament is a part of the acting out of Moses 5 Books. You don’t tell the people what the Jewish fables were. Its when they started put up christmas trees like the christian churches do today and put jesus name on it. Jeremiah 10:3 For the religious customs of the peoples are vain; worthless!!! For one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with an ax. Verse4 They decorate it with silver and with gold.ect
According to jrc we can put christmas trees up because were not of the old testament.
What funny is Jesus is the old Testament. He changes not and He and the Father are one. He prayed that you would be one with the Father but JRC is his own fool. The word iniquity is a greek word that come from two Hebrew words ‘Without Torah’. So on your judgement day jrc are you one of those that Jesus saids depart from me you worker without Torah [iniquity]
Joe Schweigart
Pastor Chambers:
Your most recent remarks aimed at disparaging the best selling book entitled “The Harbinger” are noted.
More specifically, the references and highlighted warnings concerning fable-produced works and the useful lessons in Biblical discernment principles are appreciated, but hardly fit a reasonable critique of the subject book. In short, we seldom disagree, but this is one of those times.
I don’t want to waste your precious time, so I will simply repeat what I said on April 1, 2012 when you first embarked on your critical review of the subject book: “I believe Messianic Rabbi Cahn’s fictionalized manner in bringing forth indisputable judgmental facts being currently or recently experienced by America and producing a parallel with the judgments experienced by ancient Israel passes the Berean test.”
Accordingly, I strongly recommend that others who have not done so read the book and view the two-hour video documentary entitled “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment” and then decide for themselves. In my opinion, your critique alone does not do justice to these works of Rabbi Cahn.
Respectfully,
Brother Joe
Jan Markell
What you’re doing is shameful. I have concluded you are motivated by envy. You are discrediting the world of eschatology. Please retire and stop embarrassing those of us who are scholars and who go about this properly.
Sent from Jan’s iPhone=
ken switzer
Yes, such an interesting discourse from you Mr. Chambers. I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment of Mr. Cahn. People take issue with everything from his title of “RABBI” Cahn. Gee, come to think of it, I have attended many churches in these last days. They all seem to have their dose of confusion and fables. The biggest thing I find is that “saints who are supposedly filled with the Spirit and speak in tongues” — well let’s just say, their Biblical knoweledge of the word is very lacking. NOW, these “spirit” filled believers should be the most discerning and should KNOW the Bible inside and out — but they don’t, most go on the “fuzzy” feeling inside — NOT THAT I am against “spirit filled” believers — but they make a lot of doctrinal errors as a result of NOT KNOWING OR READING THEIR BIBLES — then we have the opposite problem with the Fundamentalists, who believe G-d (Jesus) somehow QUIT doing miracles after the Bible was put together — NEITHER is correct —– and that is part of the END TIME confusion of the church — yes -check out Revelation chapters 2 and 3 to discover the confusion of the end of the age churches –and we are here —
Gary C. Hardin
Pastor Chambers,
I sincerely appreciate your further explanation of this and I now agree with you. As I said before, I never approved of the fictional “Left Behind” series and now after carefully reviewing all your thoughts on this matter, I agree that “The Harbinger” falls into that category as well for me. I thank you for your strong and faithful stance and for explaining these things further in depth.
Yours in Christ,
Gary C. Hardin
San Diego, Ca.
Mark Steiner
Agreed, the Church at large certainly lacks discernment – serious enough – but it also lacks hope – the Blessed Hope of Titus 2:13. That is one verse stating that Jesus’ return is imminent.
You don’t get discernment unless you read and study the Word of God – Old and New Testaments. Many Old Testament prophecies warn of judgment on ALL nations, not just Israel. Read what happens to nations who divide the land of Israel, for instance: Joel 3:1-2. Not good news.
A Pastor and I walked the streets of metro Denver today warning others to get saved: Romans 10:9-13. People who for the most part don’t have a clue or give a tinker’s hoot about the return of the Lord. People who attend churches where the name Jesus is ignored or absent. People who get mushy messages that convict or save no one. People who storm Denver’s Pepsi Center to be snowed under by Joel Osteen but won’t darken the entrance of a small Church preaching and teaching whe whole counsel of God.
These stand at the portals of a devil’s hell. We need to understand fully the signs of the times and act appropriately in this regard. The signs of either Jesus’ imminent return (Rapture) or warnings of judgment on America are there. Jonathan Cahn may be a mounthpiece to warn this country. If God wants to speak through a donkey or cry out from the rocks – He has the power to do so! Good day.
Ed Wood
Hello Pastor Joseph.
Seems like there are strong views from the posters pro and con “The Harbinger.” My own point of view is that if someone wants to know the truth about eschatology – or anything else for that matter – the Bible is the THE place to go.
What are your views on novels or movies based on biblical events, past and yet to come such as the “Left Behind” series, “Ben Hur,” “The Robe,” for example?
Perhaps this would be a good subject for an article.
Keith Black
ABOUT DANGEROUS FABLES & VIDEO GAMES
The Harbinger Book may indeed be a fable. It is not the only one out there. There is another called THE CHRONICLES OF NARINA. That one is really into the occult. The way the NARINA story goes is that some KIDS STEP INSIDE OF A WARDROBE (clothes cabinet) AND THEY ENTER ANOTHER WORLD, WHERE IT IS WINTER ALL THE TIME. IT HAS WITCHES AND WITCHCRAFT. IT IS OCCULT. The movie is addictive. That is a real fable even much deeper than HARBINGER. Kids are really addicted to that. One little boy who was addicted to NARINA, was with his mother at an ANTIQUE STORE. He happened to see a WARDROBE CABINET. he nagged his mother to get it for him, so he could PLAY NARINA. She finally got it for him. When they got it to the house and put it in the bedroom, the FIRST THING THAT LITTLE BOY DID WAS TO STEP INSIDE OF THAT CLOTHES CABINET TO ENTER THE NARINA WORLD, BUT IT DID NOT WORK FOR HIM, BECAUSE HE BUMPED INTO THE BACK WALL OF THAT CABINET. A CLOTHES CABINET cannot be used as a DOOR. The only way you could get through it is to CUT A HOLE IN THE BACK WALL OF CABINET, AND ALSO CUT A HOLE IN THE HOUSE WALL. Then you can get through the cabinet to get out in the yard. Probably the most dangerous fable of all is HARRY POTTER BOOKS AND MOVIES. Some CHURCHES ARE USING THOSE HARRY POTTER BOOKS AND MOVIES. The Harry Potter stuff is TOTALLY WITCHCRAFT. The GHOST STORIES: BOOKS AND MOVIES AND OLD HAUNTED HOUSES are fables too. Probably the most SPELL BINDING FABLES ARE THE VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES. IF A VIDEO GAME HAS 3-D GLASSES IT IS EVEN MORE SPELL BINDING. People even shoot at folks in the video games. VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES LEAD TO VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. When people get ADDICTED to playing video games, they can no longer tell what is the real world and the FABLE WORLD. Some murders have resulted from playing video games. VIDEO GAMES IS A DANGEROUS NARCOTIC. It can lead to DEMONIC POSSESION, especially if the games have occult material. UNGEONS AND DRAGONS IS VERY DANGEROUS.
The HARBINGER BOOK is probably LIGHTLY OCCULT.
CHRONICLES OF NARINA BOOKS AND MOVIES ARE DEEPLY OCCULT. No you can’t use a CLOTHES CABINET AS A DOORWAY into another world.
HARRY POTTER BOOKS AND MOVIES ARE EXTREMELY OCCULT.
VIDEO GAMES ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, AN HALLUCINATING AND CAN LEAD TO DEMON POSSESSION.
All these things are examples of FABLES. The biggest of all are action filled VIDEO GAMES.
Sincerely,
Keith Black
Sean
Y wonder wshy this same level of concern is not given those antibiblical books called t5he Left Behind coauthored by “Pastor” Tim LeHaye, one of the worst anti-Catholic maniacs this side of John Macarthur. I dare say, Joseph, LeHaye even gives you a run for your anti-Catholic money.
yvonne dean
Jan Markel needs to look in the mirror what she says is much more shameful. She is in the company of apostate teachers and should rethink what she is saying. She is another in a long line of so called bible teachers who refuse to have any discernment. This is why the church is so full of apostasy today. Thank you for posting these articles and getting the truth out there you will be truly blessed.
Robert
Call no one Rabbi, Call no one Father, (Roman Catholic) Well most Religious dont pay
any attention to what GOD says not to do, All in All that wont take you to hell
What will take you there, Is failing to reckonize the one who died on the cross
For your sins, His shed BLOOD will purify you right now for asking him to forgive
you of your sins, He does it all,
I read someplace that each day of the week represents the Occult, But Sat or Sun
worship Wont send you to hell, I think we should Worship him every day of the week.
We will all have enough to answer for at the Judgement Seat of CHRIST.
Yes we as a country are headed for Judgement, Even if the Harbinger had never been
written, Pushing the Homesexual Agenda, Violence is filling the earth, The World trade
centers, Were brought down by Our own Government, No one from Iraq, or Arabia did
anything, Romote control were guiding those planes, No plane hit the Pentigion, not even
a trace of it, Missle hit it,
American people Our Government is hell bent on destroying this Country, Wake up, Will
there be an election this fall, Or will it be suspended, & Obama remain President.
The folks are talking about Unrest this summer Riots an looting killing raping
IF you are here at such a time, You will not have Easter Christmas or Sat. or Sunday
on your mind. Call on the LORD while he can be found,
RJ
My own personal thoughts: while I admit I am getting a bit tired of reading about “The Harbinger” ~ both good and bad… [just like all the other stuff over the years that people.. Christians.. got on both sides of the fence over!! i.e. “The Passion of Christ” movie… and we could go on & on…] but my personal feelings aside because all I have to do is not read any more until we move forward with other subjects.
But I wanted to say, Jan Markell: I’ve always been a fan of your updates & emails & sometimes share them with others. You seem balanced, a great watcher and indeed a “scholar”. But OUCH!! You just shot yourself in the foot here — showing your true feelings perhaps? Because if this was an accidental slipup, surely you’d take time to come back & apologize.
I was taken aback the way you pounced all over Bro. Chambers. He is doing absolutely nothing that is “shameful”; I have met him & his wife at a prophecy conference [though surely they do not remember me; it was a long time ago] and can just almost bet the farm that he is NOT motivated “by envy”. Good grief! What an outlandish statement!
Further: you stated he is “discrediting the world of eschatology”…. again!! OUTLANDISH!! Why I keep the level of enthusiasm of our Blessed Hope quite full ~ in part, many thanks to Joseph Chambers for taking time to remind us how very close we are to seeing Jesus, Savior and Lord!
Please retire? Well, that’s up to him & the Lord, and not to be ordered by another.
But this line got me the most: “and stop embarrassing those of us who are scholars” and go about this properly.
Goodnight, Ms. Markell!! Just who do you think YOU ARE?? One of God’s top scholars who can tell all the other prophecy teachers what’s what?
You remind me way too much of that old prophecy preacher (his name currently eludes me) but he’s crusty and rusty and teaches doctrinal error (I’m not saying you are doing that) but he had such a haughty air about him ~ actually telling people that if they had not studied prophecy for as long as he had, then they should “sit down and shut up”…. further, he dogmatically insists that he is right about everything!! He even said that the AntiChrist would have control only over the MidEast and Europe – and not the western world. How contrary to Scripture that is!! Revelation clearly states that the AntiChrist will have control over the WHOLE world!!! And the whole world, those names that are not written in the book of life, will bow down to him. Jan, I am not saying you are teaching this so do not even try to read it that way ~ I am merely saying you displayed the same dogmatic, arrogant attitude.
Listen, I don’t agree with EVERYTHING Bro. Chambers says either – only most of it. But I don’t think it’s right to come stomping in here & beat up on a Christian brother & imply that you’re the only one who’s a “scholar”. Do you have any idea how many years this man has studied & preached?
I’m sorry his take on “The Harbinger” does not agree with yours. But you could have challenged him on that; instead of beating up on him personally!! Since you chose to do that, I personally lost a ton of respect for you.
Lastly, a note/reminder to all of us: folks these are DANGEROUS last days!!! It is so difficult to tell the wheat from the tares. I just read last night how Jimmy DeYoung (big name prophecy preacher) is now touting that it’s “okay” to take the mark of the beast during the Tribulation to feed their hungry families ~ and then they can UNTAKE it later and “repent” and not be sent to hell.
My word!! This is so, so DEAD wrong!!!! Maybe Mr. DeYoung is considered “a scholar” ~ however, Scripture CLEARLY SAYS take the mark & you’re doomed to the Lake of Fire for ALL eternity!!!! It does not get ANY clearer than that!! You cannot take it & then untake it!
Just to clarify: raptured Christians will, of course, not have to face this; so let’s be sure we get in on the (very soon coming) rapture by repenting & trusting in Jesus as our Savior and then following Him as Lord! That means we “abide” in Him daily, staying in the will of the Father and obeying Him and living holy. Read ALL the New Testament ~ not just picking out a few verses to suit us. The New Testament is chocked full of INSTRUCTIONS unto righteousness and if we were not expected to follow it then it would not even be in there!
I think the best advice for all of us: do not lean on what people (even ahem “scholars”) say…. but find out THE TRUTH of what God expects of us by READING THE BIBLE!!!!!! Better be reading the right Bible, too – not one of these new “gay friendly” versions. Sickening!
Well, this is about all I’ve got to say on this subject. Sorry I had to be so long winded to get my point across.
I end with MARANATHA!!!
John H
I have to admit that I had not heard of this book until listening to “Open Bible Dialogue” on the internet. My viewpoint is that instead of reading books such as the “Harbinger” that Christians should be studying the actual Word of God. Christians need to get back to the basics and start living a life of holiness that is pleasing to the Lord.
Ed Wood brought up a point about movies such as “Ben Hur” and the “Left Behind” books and the viewpoints on those things. I think that is a fascinating subject also. My personal opinion is that I have no problem with the “Ben Hur” movie but I am not an advocate of the “Left Behind Series”.
The “Ben Hur” movie included Biblical elements but it was not fable like and it did not bring dishonor to the name of Jesus and in fact put an emphasis on forgiveness.
Billy Rubalcaba
I have to say that for the past few of hours i have been hooked by the amazing articles on this website. Keep up the good work.
jaimie
Dear Pastor
More warnings about the Harbinger are merited.
To those others; A “fable” always includes an animal as part of the myth. Please check this out..if in doubt.
God Bless
jaimie
i Pray for you every day Pastor.
pastor Beard
You know as I read these statements, I immediately reminded of the scripture, that in the “latter times” some shall depart “THE FAITH”. We as Christians are to be led, fed, by the Holy Bible. But, as an “entertainment” CONSUMED society, we can’t even seem to be enthralled by God’s precious Word without some attachment these Books that suggest we fear a “magical” “unknown” prophet is most certainly duped by another spirit. I tell you, Bro Chambers has the Mind of The Lord here, and those who refuse to hear only bring to themselves into a very dangerous place. Consider, 2 Corinthians 11
1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
John H
I totally agree with pastor Beard. The Holy Bible is the totally inspired and Holy Word of God that is infallible. I am afraid that many Christians today are reading books such as the “Harbinger” from Christian book stores and spending as much time if not more time reading those books than the Bible. To complicate matters most so called Christian books even from Christian bookstores are deceptive and have many elements of false doctrine and worldliness in them. As unusual as it may sound many times when I walk into a Christian bookstore I feel an uneasy sense and oppression to use a strong word of deception and false doctrine.
If Christians would get back to the basics of the Bible then there would be less deception and carnal mindness. Eternity is real and Christians should be focusing on the Book that is what we will have to give an account for.
TIM S
Parnormal? Does that include speking in an unknown tongue without a translation?
pastor Beard
Bro Chambers
A quick comment on something I heard you mention on todays (June 23 12) show, and you mentioned a woman, who said something about YOU retiring, and leaving the e scatological issues to the scholars. First- The term retire is a dead giveaway, she is one of these “hirelings” that work for a check, and so she would not understand the CALL OF GOD! And second~ I fear when all of the old timers are not here, that these deceivers will be their replacement, and they will have no problem teaching these GROSS-errors being lapped up by today’s church. Oh my Brother I am praying God keep you, and many others alive, and healthy until Jesus comes back to bring the Church back to Calvary. I know I am finding myself more, and more returning to the old paths that are tried and true. And I am telling all I can pretty much the same things you say week, after week. And I hope to help see perhaps tens of thousands, back to the old ways. And be that yielded holy vessel unto the Lord. Keep on Preaching/teaching these Great Truths, you have many listening, and heeding your gracious message. In Jesus’ Service pastor Beard
pastor Beard
Tim S, You really ought not touch on something you evidently know NOTHING about. The Word of God teaches us CLEARLY that the CHURCH in the New Testament SPOKE IN TONGUES. Clearly, the apostles of God were more concerned about the churches being filled with the Holy Ghost, than any other thing. This is the very reason I think so many churches teach so many lies, they have shepherds who not only know nothing about this great truth, but frequently blaspheme against in their teachings, and raise up often times, blasphemers, who speak against the GIFT of God Acts 2:38-39. And would further prove why so many so-called pastors commit spiritual adultery as they practice their evil religion like masons etc… If these men were baptized in the Holy Ghost, they would have discernment, and would preach against all the vile doctrines now filling these dog kennels calling themselves churches. Also you need to know you are flirting with the sin, to which one can NEVER get forgiveness for BLASPHEMING THE HOLY GHOST, if you do this you will split hell wide open. I have a sermon outline you can read that goes into more detail than I have room here to describe.