RICK WARREN, “THE ULTIMATE FOLLY OF FALSE DOCTRINES”
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THE LORD JESUS WARNED US ABOUT THE OFFENCES THAT WOULD FLOOD THE WORLD DURING THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE. Listen to His perfect description of this hour. “And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (Matthew 24: 10-14)
Nothing is so heart-breaking to sincere Christians as the careless departure from the Holy Bible. Isaiah cried out in despair as he proclaimed this fact. “And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.” (Isaiah 59:14)
There appears to have become a consensus that the Biblical doctrines and their infallibility no longer counts to anyone. The Bible says it very differently. The only real truth in the world is Biblical truth and it will stand the test of time. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-20)
The Lord spoke often of the offence that would become dominate and would characterize the end of time. “And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake. But there shall not a hair on your head perish. In your patience possess ye your soul.” (Luke 21: 16-19) These truths are vital for this generation to hear. These great words of the “Eternal Word” Himself is exactly what we will be judged by. Truth will prevail.
John the Revelator warned of the consequence of deleting or changing the Word of God. “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Revelation 22:18-19) The statements of several that have responded to my strong position of Rick Warren suggest that he can still be saved even if he has grossly departed from truth. How can that be? If the Bible elevates itself to the final expression of His perfect will and we willingly follow our devices, how can we expect to be eternally saved? I guess I’m a legalist because I see the Holy Word as binding on my life. The truth is I love living by the whole of the Scripture.
The Bible is a covenant or a will and we are part of that covenant. It is just as legal as a deed to your home or car. If someone walks up to you and says, “Get out of this house, I’m taking over and moving in,” you had better have a legal deed. If you have a legal deed but you still move out you are a foolish individual. I would feel just as foolish if I read the Bible and saw the truth of my covenant, but then broke that covenant and did like I pleased. I do not believe that anyone will be saved that rejects truth and claims their own doctrines. I do not believe you can disobey the Bible and still be saved. Of course, anyone can repent and return and that is His mercy to forgive. Salvation is in the Love and Surrender to Christ and in love and surrender to truth.
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Byron
Again bro. Joseph, well said! As Christians (no matter where you are w/your walk w/Him) it’s seemingly clear that very trying times will get more intense. Being one who generally always believed in the ‘blessed hope’ event before Daniels 70th week (still, I strongly believe) but also understand that our eschatology concerning the Revelation of Jesus Christ of the event sequencing of the seals in Rev. 6 being spread out (prior to the tribulation) which does make sense. It does seem that the further we go the more revelations (understandings) we see. Forgive me here, it seems like some confusion, most likely another tool Satan using to try to keep us divided that much more which is more the reasons to have Eph 6 firmly planted in our hearts and minds. I better leave it here, a lot of war fare going on.
God bless, it
will be over
soon!
melvin meyers
The truth the 7th day is Yah Sabbath day. You say people with false or own doctrines are not saved. Look at all the christian churches keeping sunday as the sabbath days. Yah has 7 Appointed Feasts. Christian turn pagan celebrations into god holy days; doctrines of men. Did not Yahushua say it you love me keep my commandments? Christians say the Torah been done away with.
Teri Bangert
I am appalled at the continual false venom you spew relating to Pastor Rick Warren. I attend his church, and you are so incorrect about your statements. I also find it disheartening that you have so much time to waste in an effort to taint Pastor Rick’s reputation. Pastor Rick’s doctrines are not false as you assert; if you would spend as time investigating that everything he says is in line with the Holy Word of God, as you do demeaning him, you would feel ridiculous for your defamatory remarks. He is humble and fully committed to furthering God’s word, as you should be instead of WASTING time with your false, ungodly efforts. Shouldn’t you be striving to further the Kingdom of God instead of destroy it with your hatred toward your fellow Pastors and servants of God?
Will Kinney
Hi brother, you are absolutely right. The Bible itself tells us there will be a falling away from the faith before the return of Christ in glory and that God will send a famine of hearing His words into the land. And that the whore of Babylon will be very active in the end times. We see this in the obvious truth that many refuse to acknowledge – the modern versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET, etc. are all the new Vatican Versions. Sounds ridiculous? Outrageous? Preposterous? Well, here is the undeniable proof and even in their own words –
Undeniable Proof the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET etc. are the new “Catholic” bibles
“Mystery, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth..is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit…Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins” Revelation 17:5; 18:2-4
If you have a copy of the Nestle-Aland 27th edition, open the book and read what they tell us in their own words on page 45 of the Introduction. Here these critical Greek text editors tell us about how the Greek New Testament (GNT, now known as the UBS) and the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece grew together and shared the same basic text.
In the last paragraph on page 45 we read these words: “The text shared by these two editions was adopted internationally by Bible Societies, and following an agreement between the Vatican and the United Bible Societies it has served as the basis for new translations and for revisions made under their supervision. This marks a significant step with regard to interconfessional relationships. It should naturally be understood that this text is a working text: it is not to be considered as definitive, but as a stimulus to further efforts toward defining and verifying the text of the New Testament.”
There it is folks, in their own words. They openly admit that this text is the result of an agreement between the Vatican and the UBS and that the text itself is not “definitive” – it can change, as it already has and will do so in the future, and is not the infallible words of God but merely “a stimulus to further efforts”.
All of grace, believing the Book and redeemed by the blood of the Lamb,
Will Kinney
Ed Wood
For someone who is a pastor of a church, I’m assuming this person has had the advantage of a formal education which should impart a greater depth of knowledge about the Bible than a lay person such as myself.
So, how can so many of these people get the basics of salvation so wrong? How can they say Islam and Christianity are compatible when even a cursory examination shows that they are not? They certainly can’t trot out ignorance as an excuse.
The only explantion that I see is either their seminaries instead of helping them to see the veracity of God’s Word have taught them to doubt it, or that they are just being deliberately contrary.
It’s interesting that Jesus warned about following his revelation of the destruction of the temple which was to come almost forty years after he spoke of it in his Olivet Discourse, that he warns of the deception to follow.
I’m sure those who listend to him at the time could hardly believe such an impressive structure such as the temple could ever fall. But it did to Titus’ forces in 70 A.D.
Here we are almost 2000 years later with the advantage of hindsight seeing that prophecy occur and still not getting the idea that everything else Jesus and the Bible said about the future will also occur as well.
I’d say most of the clergy these days are pretty much out of excuses not to be faithful to their calling – and we laypeople are out of excuses to keep listening to them and paying for their fancy homes, cars, and airplanes.
Violet
Melvin, that is definitely legalism. We celebrate Our Lord Jesus Christ on Sunday. You will learn the truth if you seek it outside what 7th Day Adventists say. They are so stuck on the law.
Brian Lakins
I agree and have written several books proving salvation is conditional and unconditional eternal security is false. I too must be a perfectionist legalist. Maybe I should read Galatians again as usually recommended. I recommend the same to them, as well as Genesis through Revelation.
http://www.conditionalsalvation.com
Robert
Teri Bangert,
Stick with Rick Warren, You will find it led you to the lake of fire,
Wise up Teri, Befor you run out of time,
Tomarrow might be to late.
Robert
Sue Blake
Come quickly Lord……
Sue Blake
No one has to taint Rick Warren…he has done a good job all by himself. When he went to Syria and praised them as a slap to the Isralies. You see that Syria is not a friend to the Jews or Christians.
Rick has turned his back on what the Bible teaches. We are to bless the Jews/ Israel, not curse them.
Donna Byrd
To Teri:
If Pastor Chambers is wrong, then please explain to me Rick’s Daniel Plan. Dr. Oz, who is a muslim, a modern day shaman, he mixes traditional medicine with a wide variety of occult/New Age practices.His recommended reading list includes “The Instruction, Living the Life your Soul Intended”, by Ainslie MacLeod, a psychic. Or his other book “The Transformation” that teaches readers how to meditate and contact spirit guides. Dr. Hyman, he recommends many New Age resources,to help people meditate, become pshchic and connect with spirit guides. Last, Dr. Daniel Amen specifically recommends Hindu Kundalinia, a form of meditation called Kirtan Kriya, that instructs you to chant “sa ta na ma”.Do you not see the word satan in the chant. Rick Warren has brought this into many churches. I believe the Bible calls this necromancey. See Deut. 18:10-12 This is very dangerous to anyone, these so called spirit guides are demons.
“Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brothers way.” Romans 14:13
Judy
Violet ,,,
Fourth Commandment:
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of YHWH your Elohim. For in six days YHWH made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore YHWH blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” Exodus 20
“The Lord’s Day” is not Sunday – historically the pagan-Greek day of the sun
Scripture refers to the end of days when Messiah establishes a state of rest for all creation.
The Sabbath Millennium “Day of the Lord” seventh day – seventh year – seventh millennium
I’m not a 7th Day Adventist, but anyone who studies scripture knows this.
Sean
It is a shame about Rick Warren. But then the shame is shared by Joseph and the others here. They disregard all the references to the Church as the Mystical Body of Christ, the pillar and bulwark of truth, for which the Bible is her manual. In Acts 15 we see the Church setting aside Genesis 17:1014 and all other commands by God to circumcise, since Baptism is now the sign of the family of the New Israel of the New Covenant. And the apostles and presbyters also eliminaqted all of Leviticus 11 with all the laws of keeping kosher.
So it is by the authority of the Church, guided by the Spirit of Truth as Jesus promised, that Scripture is interpreted, not individuals. We see how silly that’s been – look at all the sects and denominations that have sprung up over the past 500 years, each one’s founder claiming that HE has the REAL Christian truth. As if God was deluded and defeated for 1500 years. All the voices cackling away, demanding followers join them – no wonder the secular culture laughs at Christians who can’t agree on anything five things.
Return, O people to your mother, the Church which is the Bride of Christ, rather than the whores set up by Satan to divide and weaken the Church.
Ginger
If people shall take a moment to see what ” Americas pastor” is teaching, would would see the deception first hand. I thank you for your efforts to expose satan’s handy work, and place light on it.
Rick
Message:
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, a Roman Catholic, is
supporting the British government’s plan to
legalize homosexual “marriage”
before 2015. The Independent newspaper
reported on March 10 that Blair told friends that he “strongly
supports the Prime Minister’s proposal.” Blair is pushing for a
New Age global unity and world peace based on harmony among all
religions.
This is the man who was acclaimed by the Southern Baptist pastor Rick
Warren of Saddleback Church. In March 2011 Warren and his congregation
presented Blair with a peace prize.
Sheree
Hi Pastor, I hope you don’t feel for one moment that you did anything
wrong in speaking the truth in love. Pastor, it’s called “tough
love”… I’ve been a listener and supporter of your ministry and I
feel and hear your heart.
When false teachers are exposed, it’s tough to do and many ministers
and preachers do not have the boldness nor courage to do it. Anyone
listening to you should know that you have a love for our Savior and a
love for His Word that is wonderful. I believe as people listen to
error, their discernment is dulled to the point where they no longer
hear the tuggings and voice of the Holy Ghost, the Spirit who leads us
to all truth! I believe because you know the dangers of following
false prophets, you are zealously trying to warn any and all to come
out from among them and be ye seperate. God is Holy and His Word is
Holy…we all need an old fashioned “fear of the Lord”, what He says,
He means.
Remember our Precious Lord Jesus in the temple, it wasn’t a pretty
picture, He was angry re the foolishness He saw going on there!!!
Pastor, continue to be about your Father’s business. Defend and
contend for the faith! I love it and there are many, thousands I am
sure who stand with you!!!
Sally
Dear Bro. Chambers,
Thank you for standing up and getting the word out about this HUGE event in the coming together of the spiritual side of Babylon the Great (Revelation 17). I consider the coming together, under The Yale Covenant/The Common Word one of the biggest signs that the soon return of Jesus Christ is upon us. I have sent all of the information I can gather to my pastor and to everyone else that I can think of, but you and a handful of others are the only ones who are speaking out loudly and firmly about this abomination called Chrislam.
God’s description of the False Prophet and his “2 horns” represent 2 major religious kingdoms, and the 2 largest on earth are Christianity and Islam, so the horns are in place, just as foretold by John, in Revelation 13:11: “Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon.” I pray that churches will awaken and become zealous in preaching this information, so that those who are asleep in the pews across this country will not be caught sleeping when Christ returns. This is a blessed, yet dangerous time for God’s people, and with all of the “ear tickling” pastors and teachers tending “the sheep” that God has given into their care, I’m very concerned that the sheep will be among those referred to in Hosea 4:6: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being My priest. Since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.”
I am so sad that you will not be in Tulsa this year for the Mid-America Prophecy Conference, because with everything happening so fast, it may be the last one before the Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation. Wanda and I will miss seeing you and your precious wife – please, give her our regards. You have no idea how often I quote your articles and have shown your videos to the bible study classes and the Sunday School class that I teach. Many of these women are on your e-mail and love reading your clear and important articles. I have used your information about Cremation so many times that I’ve lost count. Sadly, there are not enough pastors/teachers like you, who are not “ashamed of the gospel”, and not afraid of losing their funding for speaking the absolute truth of God’s word. It’s coming to the point where believers will be better served by staying in groups and studying God’s word, where they are being fed, rather than attending a church where their spiritual ears are stopped up and their hearts are veiled.
Thanks again,
May God bless you,
Craig
Message:
The Bible is clear regarding salvation, yet MOST careless Christians
have been “caught up” in the false hope of a PRE-trib rapture. The
apostasy of the last days is based on the assumption that God would
never put his church through any part of the Tribulation because it
was meant for the judgment and punishment of UNbelievers. However
these nominal unsaved “Christians” have no faith and character of
true believers and were never truly saved. True believers would NEVER
fall back into apostasy. This assumption of a false salvation will be
exposed when true believers are raptured MID-trib. Phony, nominal
Christians will be exposed, just as Antichrist will be exposed
MID-trib in the Temple. LOOK how Jesus describes His church. How can
Jesus dislike His Church? In John’s day the MAJORITY, six of seven
churches (86%), did NOT measure up. Read carefully Rev 2:16. The
leadership of Christianity will immediately pass to the “mother”
of Christianity: Israel and the 144,000 Jews that are immediately
converted MID-trib at the miracle of the Rapture. The church apostasy
is fueled by the careless assumption that God would never judge and
punish the Church. Nothing could be further from the truth (Rev 3:19).
Evangelists twist “apostasy” (falling away) into “rapture”
(catching up). They don’t know the difference between exegesis and
eisegesis. It will be shocking when careless, smug, nominal
Christianity will be thrown into the Great Tribulation at the MID-trib
rapture (Rev 12:22). The world will be mocking Christianity (2Pet
3:4). The PRE-trib doctrine fuels apathy, carelessness, and apostasy.
You can bet this present, careless church WILL be thrown into the
Great Tribulation.
Ben
I see what you’re saying I guess but I find A Purpose Driven Life to be quite helpful actually… it’s full of bible verses and good advice based on that?
Mark Steiner
Every day is a Sabbath Rest day for the saint who knows his Savior. I can rest knowing that Jesus not only took away all my sins at Calvary, but that, by rising from the dead THREE DAYS LATER He became the firstfruits for those who would willingly follow Him and by trusting fully in Him. Regarding the ongoing flap about Rick Warren: he is a wealthy compromiser, internationalist, member Council on Foreign Relations, advance guard for the emerging (or is it really – SUBmerging) Church, all kinds of false doctrine related to New Age and an embracer of Islam “where we have our agreements between Islam and Christianity.” Please. An Imam would never embrace the fact the Jesus is God, is the Son of the Father and created everything and everyone from the beginning in Genesis 1:1. Thanks to Warren’s efforts many in the church don’t know if Father God is YHWH (Yahweh) or Allah, the moon god. The person and nature of God is clearly defined in Scripture. If we lay our Bibles down and walk away, it won’t be long before something false and damnable takes its place. Good day.
Bill Andrews
Why are people arguing against a pre-trib rapture in their comments to this message when it is not even about the rapture anyway ? If you don’t believe in what the Bible clearly states concerning the rapture (THAT IT WILL BE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION) please quit reading here. Keep your satanic bablings to yourself.
Great message Pastor Chambers ! Please keep seeing the Holy Word as binding on your life. That is THE way !
Lydia V. W. Idaho
Thank you for good work br. Joseph,
it is good to talk about, we could see who, where stands in this times of ends……few more weeks, or months, years? We do not know but we could be warn and turn to that right Way of Life and Light. Thank you ………….I love to read all the comments. Lydia
RobiMac
I have also heard someone say that the apostate cannot be saved simply because they are entrenched in the apostasy yet believe they are saved thereby, not living their life in the Word.
Please pray for my father. He is very sick with diabetes and in a nursing facility. Many years ago, I took him down the Roman Road and he accepted Christ as his Savior, I think. Not sure if the seed dropped landed on stone or good soil. If he didn’t know Christ then, pray he finds Him now.
G-d bless you all and see ya in the air potentially very soon.
Ashlyn Arquero
This event is preceded by the Rapture and the Tribulation period. Does this mean that the church is still on the earth during part or all of the tribulation? When does the rapture take plae?