LYING WONDERS IN CHARISMATIC CIRCLES (Part Two)
WITCH DOCTORS ARE NO LONGER OPERATING IN THE JUNGLES, BUT IN THE CHURCH WORLD! Many different manifestations previously known exclusively to the occult are sweeping the church world. It is not the Holy Spirit it is “Psychic Activity” or “Demonic Spirits”. You must settle that truth for yourself, hopefully after you finish this article. Sharp division between the real and the false is an absolute requirement for Christian living and church attendance. For too long the church has drifted like a ship without a rudder. In many congregations, Biblical truth has been treated lightly, while social and emotional matters have demanded attention. This closing hour does not allow for such carelessness, neither does it allow a light treatment of the “spirit of discernment.” Those who do not have a firm and conscious hold on Biblical values and Biblical truth will not survive.
A few proof texts of Scripture are not enough for this unprecedented hour. Jesus said, “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” (Matthew 24:5). Because someone says all the right things about Jesus does not prove that the truth is being spoken. Even if the teacher, pastor, evangelist, or so-called prophet can prove that some of their prophecies have come to pass, that does not prove anything about their standing before God. Psychics, like Jeanne Dixon and Edgar Cayce, have prophesied certain events that came to pass, but their lives and beliefs attest to the absence of the Lord Jesus and His Spirit in their lives. Over and over the Holy Scripture warns us of these last days. Apostle Paul, speaking specifically about the Antichrist, said the following. “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10)
Years ago when I read the Biblical statement made by Jesus, “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” (Matthew 24:24), it made no sense to me. Deceive the very elect if possible? I thought, how could that be? The great Christians that I served the Lord Jesus beside were as solid as a rock. The real church world did not tolerate false doctrines or questionable activity that passed the points of acceptable order. That day is gone.
Calling “Psychic Activity” The Gifts Of The Holy Spirit Is A Modern Fad! When I first wrote about the mass psychic activities that were sweeping New Wave churches was an altered state of consciousness, I trembled that maybe this was too harsh or far-fetched. Little did I know that the so-called Kansas City Prophets and the defenders of the “Toronto Blessing” were already saying that all of the New Wave activity was a kind of psychic phenomenon, except they said it in a positive vein. In a book entitled, “Some Said It Thundered “(1991) by David Pytches (foreword by Dr. John White and afterword by Jamie Buckingham), which was written about the “Kansas City Prophets” spoke strongly in defence of this idea. They clearly believed and fully expressed the belief that “Psychic Activities”can be Biblical .
The book stated the following, “Our first question was: How do prophets receive their revelations? Is it through the ‘psyche’ (soul) or the ‘pneuma’ (spirit)? This was important for us to clarify. For the average Christian the word ‘psychic’ is tainted by its association with the occult, but in fact the Greek word ‘psyche’ is a wholesome New Testament word translated ‘soul’. Such a good biblical word clearly needs redeeming today. The psychic center in each of us seems to have a vital role to play in the area of revelation from God. Then if occultists get limited communication from the powers of darkness on to the psyche, which some claim to be the case ( Editor: Though obviously such revelations, even when true, have an evil origin for evil objectives), then such a counterfeit must be matched by a genuine experience from God almighty.”
“They seemed to have no problem in accepting the term psychic in this pure sense to describe one part of the process of divine revelation to human beings.” “The human spirit is a channel that picks up spiritual transmissions from God or from the powers of darkness, and these are reflected on to the screen of the psyche, the soul. The same TV channel can carry beastly cruelty, pornography, or breathtaking beauty. The responsibility for the subject matter lies not in the channel itself but in the source of the transmission or the choice of the person tuning into the program.” End of guote! (Some Said It Thundered, David Pytches, pp. 106-107, 1991)
Never in church history or in my Biblical studies have I heard such thinking defended. The Word Study Dictionary says, “The soul belongs to the lower region of man’s (immaterial) being…” (ibid, page 1494.) The soul cannot be confused with our spirit, which is God-breathed or the breath of God. This breath from God exists in us as our spirit. The Spirit is our spiritual connection to God. Jesus said, “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in “spirit” and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.” (John 4:23).
There is no clear distinction in the secular or occultic world between the soul and the spirit as is clearly seen in Holy Scripture. While both belong to the immaterial, the soul represents the lower region of this immaterial aspect of man while the spirit represents the higher. The soul is the seat of the depraved nature, while the spirit, though dead in the unregenerate man, is from the Lord. It is said that God made “the soul (of Jesus) an offering for sin.” (Isaiah 53:10). But at the event of Calvary when the soul was being made an offering for sin, Jesus said as His two closing statements, “It is finished.” And, “Father, into Thy hands I commend my spirit.” Except for the three hours that the Father hid His face, Jesus Christ by His Spirit was in perfect fellowship with God His Father. To suggest that our relationships to the Holy Spirit are patterned after His relationship and then to call such a relationship a psychic activity is to accuse Jesus of being a psychic. It is totally contrary to the Fundamental interpretation of Scripture and certainly the very history of the church. This is the false idea that arises from the concept of Jesus as a paranormal person that had to go into hell and be born again. This Kenneth Hagin idea is right out of the Psychic Activity thinking.
We do not, nor cannot, commune with Jehovah God through our soul. We can communicate with fallen spirits or Satan (if we are willing to pay the price Satan requires) by the soul, but not the Heavenly Father. The Scripture clearly forbids any communication with fallen angels or evil spirits because they now serve the enemy of God, Satan. God taught the children of Israel, And the ‘soul’ that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.” (Leviticus 20:6). That is an irrefutable commandment coupled with a dire warning.
The New Wave Emotions, Called “Altered States Of Consciousness” Is part of this same idea One book that defends the many emotions of the New Wave revival suggested that we consider autosuggestion, hysteria, and crown phenomena as affecting our minds and bodies. The author asserts that prayer, fasting, and speaking in tongues, can affect our conscious state and subsequently our spiritual awareness. He further states that such “altered states of consciousness” are a part of the “normal”Christian experience and Charismatic faith. The author distinguishes “altered states of consciousness” as separate from our normal waking and sleeping state and says that, in everyday language, we might refer to ASC’s as a trance, hypnosis, dream or ecstasy. He considers them as the “key to making sense of Christian experience, particularly what is happening in many churches today.” (Signs Of Revival, Dr. Patrick Dixon, MA, MBBS,, pp. 259 – 260.)
He further states, “One could argue that ASC’s, in the context of faith in Christ and prayerful obedience, are the basis of dynamic, personal, relevant, living faith,” The author lists six characteristics of an Altered State of Consciousness (ibid p. 260.):
1. “Alterations in thinking.”
2. “Altered sense of time.”
3. “Loss of control.”
4. “Changes in emotional expression.”
5. “Body image changes.”
6. “Perceptual changes or hallucinations.”(Ibid., p. 261-263.)
This kind of thinking is totally contrary to Holy Scripture and even common sense. Those who are grounded in God’s Holy Word will realize that these characteristics most certainly do not describe the marvelous activities of the Holy Spirit in the temple of Godly saints. The Holy Spirit does nothing in our bodies and vessels that does not reflect His own personality or character.. He is in Himself the same that He is in any one of the children of God and nothing more or less.
The Big Picture! These psychic activities are not isolated phenomenon.. The seed of occultic deception has been growing in the church world for a number of years. There is clear intergration between what is happening in the New Age cults and what is happening in the church. The direction of these ideas are identical.
The Kansas City Prophets was a perfect Picture of this insanity! This fellowship or church in Kansas City under a past Pastor Mike Bickle exhibited clear psychic signs. The book, “Some Said It Thundered”, defends the whole story of this church. The author of the foreword, Dr. John White, refers to “baby prophets and their difficulties distinguishing the words of the Holy Spirit from ones generated by their own hearts and/or evil sources.” He says, “At first, they make many mistakes. We know they hear from God because of the reality of the true words they speak.” (ibid, p. 14.) I have never heard of a “baby prophet” until now. I have always believed God moved through people when they were spiritually mature and not before. One problem I perceive is that when you are listening to what you think is God by psychic intuition, you cannot be sure to whom you are listening. No wonder they became confused as to their source.
The entire story appears to connect Author John White and the Kansas City Prophets back to the Latter Reign of the forties and fifties in the past 20th century. In fact one of the ministers of that period, Paul Cain, became intimately tied to this particular church and ministry. The Latter Rain Movement was riddled with confusion, false doctrines, and was utterly rejected by the Old Fashion Pentecostal churches. Here is a quote from one of Cain’s sermons at the Kansas City Fellowship. (Cain has since been totally discredited.)
He stated, “You know this message is 35 years old and I’m just preaching it again. Thank God I’ve found somebody to preach it to. I told you about the vision, what I’ve had, this recurring vision of standing at the crossroads of life and the angel of the Lord said, ‘You are standing at the crossroads of life. What do you see?’ And I saw a brilliantly lit billboard, which read JOEL’S ARMY NOW IN TRAINING . . . See I’ve been wanting to share this for so long and find somebody to listen. How would you like to have something on the back burner for 35 years and nobody had any….. boy this is, I mean this isn’t leftovers. I mean this has been hot with me all these years, but everywhere I tried to preach it, they cooked my goose. Don’t you boo me. This kind of fiery preaching is a lost art today except in a very mild degree.” (Joel’s Army, cassette from Kansas City Prophets.)
Paul Cain, according to details in the book and other sources, has exhibited psychic characteristics from his childhood. The author of Some Said It Thundered included this story about Mike Bickle and Paul Cain.“On one occasion after Mike Bickle had been complaining to his wife that he had ‘a bit of a sniffle’ or a slight cold — something he rarely had — the phone rang. Bickle picked up the receiver and heard Paul on the line. He had heard about Paul’s gift so he said by way of a joke, ‘Hi, Paul! You’re all right today! How am I?’ Immediately Paul answered him, ‘Why, Mike, you’ve got a bit of a sniffle and you are all wet. Your hair is standing up on the left side of your head.’“Bickle called his wife Diane to look at him. ‘Sweetheart, Paul says I have a “sniffle,” I am all wet and my hair is standing up on one side. Am I all wet?’“‘Yes,’ she said. ‘You’ve just come out of the shower.’“‘And is my hair standing up on one side?’“‘Yes,’ she replied, ‘on the left side!’” (ibid, p. 30.)
Here is another story repeated in the same book. On his (Paul Cain) first visit to Anaheim (to visit John Wimber now deceased) Paul claimed he saw powerful lights across the room and a strong sense of something he called the presence of God. This was accompanied by revelations in the word of knowledge. On this occasion an expensive video camera was short-circuited. This was battery operated and not plugged into any outlet. The next night the telephone system was blown out though no one was on the phone at the time.” (ibid p. 52.) This strange activity was credited as the power of God on Paul Cain. These kinds of paranormal activities are always a part of evil manifestation and never associated with the Holy Spirit.
Is there any precedence in Holy Scripture for this kind of paranormal or psychic power being identified as the work of the Holy Spirit? Such unbiblical thinking dominates almost every detail of these prophets, and the entire New Wave religion. The writer of this book stated, “The responsibility for the subject matter lies not in the channel itself but in the source of the transmission or the choice of the person tuning into the program.” That statement would imply that the whole matter is like tuning a radio, either to heavenly voices or hellish voices, and all without any similitude of spiritual maturity.
In the scope of the author’s interview with these so-called Kansas City individuals the following conversation was reported:“John Paul shared how the Lord had dealt with him over a problem he had with occasionally confused visions that came to him as flashbacks resulting from watching TV too much. He said that for the prophetic ministry that God had given him, the more television he watched the fewer true visions from God that he could experience.”
“Bob Jones another named prophets agreed that the Lord would not let him watch much TV either. ‘I can’t get into that fantasy realm — it cuts off my visions!’ “They advised watching carefully against counterfeit visions of any kind. Someone mentioned alcohol as creating confusion, since when taken in excess people can begin to ‘see’ things.”“Another problem they shared was the danger of confusion over revelations where the person receiving them had particularly strong opinions, prejudices, or unresolved bitterness in certain areas. It was easy to distort such revelations and color their own interpretations.” (ibid p. 108.) It’s interesting to note that drinking “excessive” alcohol is considered a possible deterrent to giving good prophecies. Please note that Bob Jones, one of the Kansas City prophets at that time, called prophetic revelations getting into the fantasy realm.
A Paradigm Shift Are The New Words Decribing Current Thinking In Religious Circles. The author of Some Said It Thundered clearly identified his experiences with the “Kansas City Prophets” as a paradigm shift, Capable and skilled writers do not lightly use this New Age term. The meaning is dynamic to anyone that knows this age and the spirit of the Antichrist. Every New Ager is calling for a “paradigm shift.” Writer David Pytches said, “We felt we were experiencing a paradigm shift — we were beginning to see another way of looking at the foundational things we held dear, without having in any way to discard them. Perhaps that is what the Bible meant when it spoke about scales falling from Paul’s eyes.” (ibid p. 140.)
Barbara Hubbard (noted New Ager) writes in her books: Teachings from the Inner Christ, how the human race will soon experience a day of “Planetary Pentecost.” Hubbard, claiming to be in contact with “Christ,” writes that the Planetary Smile is another name for the Planetary Pentecost. When enough of us share a common thought [paradigm shift] of our oneness with God, Spirit will be poured out on all flesh paying attention. (ibid, 79) Writing in Happy Birth Day Planet Earth, Hubbard repeats what she heard from this “Christ.” She said that “Christ” said, “as the planetary smile ripples through the nervous systems of earth, … separation is overcome, and I appear to all of you at once.” (ibid, p. 10-11.)
The Planetary Pentecost described by New Ager Hubbard is identical to the different phenomenon going on in present day Charismatic churches. All of this shows the psychic nature of these strange activities. When the Church and occultic writers are saying the exact same things somebody has missed the way of the Bible. The words Planeary Smile” sounds just like Joel Osteen, Rick Warren and Pat Robertson and the Positive Preachers Brigade. There is a growing multitude of Ministers, Writers and Devotees to this new way of deception. The Antichrist is well prepared for the moment of the Rapture and the Saints removal out of his way.
Next week we will look at one of the noted names in New Waves circles. Rick Joyner is probably the most confused of the lot. Please help your friends to learn these truths before it’s to late. Once a person is hooked on this superstitious way it is near impossible to even discuss the danger.
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Ed Wood
Thanks, Pastor Joseph, for revealing all the practices going on out there pretending to be the work of God. It’s pretty easy to see how someone who is biblically illiterate, or worse, someone who is familiar with the Bible but rejects its authority (as many clergy and seminarians are now doing) can be misled.
Just like watching an illusionist on stage perform feats which seem to defy explanation, much of the so-called church is being fooled by counterfeit miracles, false prophets, and all manner of false doctrine. But it is all deception perpetrated by the original author of lies, Satan himself.
A simple rule of thumb is this: If whatever is being trotted out goes against Scripture, then it is NOT TRUE!!
Therefore unless a person is willing to take the time to become familiar with the Bible, he or she is a prime target for lying doctrines and signs.
Just like the tricks of the illusionist, it is all smoke and mirrors, no matter how impressive and real they may seem to be.
Charles Trombley
our article explodes like a rocket on a dark night the truth Jesus said in Lk. 18:8, “When the Son of Man comes will He find THE faith on the earth?” Note He used the definite article before the word faith indicating something special. When He comes there will be many believing with a common faith, mental confession, self delusion etc., but He will be looking for those with THE faith. Those He mentioned in verse one: praying without ceasing or discouragment.
Press on fellow soldier of His cross. Lift your voice loud as you proclaim His Word without embellishment or explanations. He said what He meant because if He didn’t say what He meant, why didn’t He say what He meant. And if He said something He didn’t mean why didn’t He say and mean what He meant?
darlene
The one that I am greatly confused about is Dr. Owuor,what are your thoughts?
jaimie
Dear Pastor
Thank you for this continuation of an obviously well studied subject. Satan, like any good General will wait for the right time to deploy his greatest deception. Almost all defences have been taken out of the way, No G-D policies at work, school, in government, in the military have paid off well for him.
When was the last time we had any vision or goal of where we wanted to take our respective countries into the future. JFK wanted to go to the Moon, most everyone else since wants to fight a war.
Schools fill our Children’s minds with evolutionist lies and Ritalin.
Corporations fill their pockets and leave the stomachs of many empty.
Governments preach democracy and practise selfish forms of social control
The Military Industrial Complex never has enough money, land or control, it is virtually insatiable.
The seed sower parable come to mind, the faith of man, choked out by the weeds of worldly worries and the deceit of riches. Bless Pastor Chambers for getting the spiritual weed whacker out.
We’re not beat, we have only begun to fight the good fight, all Jesus needs is for us to keep our faith and He’ll do the rest. Nothing can challenge the will of the Heavenly Father; I Am That I Am
is forever.
God Bless
jaimie
Loly
What about the threat that they are saying that we are in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I have met good God Fearing people that are involved in this and there is MUCH fruit and evidence however it scares me to see that this could possibly be what God intended? I don’t want to be in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit and the Lord knows my heart and how I love Him. Any reflections on this?
Bill Andrews
Dear Pastor Chambers,
Great message ! I can hardly wait for the Rick Joyner article. He’s clearly teaching doctrines of the Devil but the church I go to just love him. Anyone with the discernment of a flea should be able to see him for what he teaches but not so at my church.
Can’t wait for your message !
Ed Wood
Note to Loly:
Here’s a layman’s opinion (that’s me!) on your inquiry. I believe that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is simply this: not believing in him. In an exchange between Jesus and “some” people (Luke 11:15-20), they said he was casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub the “chief of the devils” (Satan). Clearly they denied the Holy Spirit which dwelt within Jesus, claiming the Holy Spirit’s work was that of the devil. That sure sounds like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to me and was a direct product of their unbelief.
Let’s see where else disbelief leads.
If one does not believe in the Holy Spirit, one cannot possibly believe the Bible is his Word.
If one does not believe in the Bible as the Word of God, everything in it becomes nothing more than human origin and is therefore subject to human error.
If that is so, whatever it tells us about Jesus could be wrong, including his claims to deity and the only means of salvation. Here enters doubt.
Lacking faith (doubt) in Jesus as our only way to the Father (John 14:6) and our rejection of this truth automatically condemns us (John 3:16-18). Not believing in the Jesus of Scripture means when we die we will pay the full penalty ourselves for all our sins because we never repented and accepted Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross as payment for them.
It is my belief that anyone who is concerned about blaspheming the Holy Spirit will never do so, since they must believe in him in the first place to worry about it! From the contents of your post, Loly, I think you have nothing to fear in this regard because you DO believe.
(I hope others will respond and correct me if I’ve made any errors here.)
RobiMac
Only a few days ago, I read an article by Jack Kelley about the modern day blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. It was very detailed and thorough. Today’s churches are doing just that. Attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan and likewise, and we all know what the L-rd says about blaspheming the Holy Spirit…….it’s unpardonable.
Markus Goeldi
Before we generalise: I would like to to have a more elaborate version of lets say Bob Jones-what does he really teach and preach when he goes to conferences.I think it it is very dangerous to criticise fellow believers unless you give a more comprehensive account of what they really stand for.You talk about discerning of spirits- so of course do they! What are the fruits ?
GOD bless you Markus
Markus Goeldi
We have to understand that anything the devil does is twisted and as he was close to GOD knows a great deal about GOD’s kingdom. Furthermore he knows the scriptures better than a lot of Christians
Yed if a person has “clairvoyant or psychic abilities they may or may not be demonically inspired.
A child having been brought up in a Christian home who has a visitations of Jesus will be seen as OK
however if the an angel or the Lord Jesus just appears to anyone some Christians may be inclined to question this as authentic forgetting that in the last days the Holy Spirit will be poured out on
all flesh whether weagree or not.It requires still far greater discernment between the various people you have mentioned in this article
GOD bless you Markus
Dawn Austin
Excellent teaching, Pastor Chambers! It is needed. I know some people that are involved in this and I am going to send the teaching to them, but I am thinking they will be greatly offended because they do not think they CAN be deceived. So,then what was stated in Matthew 24:24 is here now!
henry michael busuulwa
John 8>8 the devils is a lair and the Father of it All.
BUT JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MA CHURCH UPON THE ROCK.
Sean
I’ve never seen such a collection of lies, misinformation nd misrepresentaiton, calumny and outright lies as in the previous article and comments regarding the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
As a historian and a Catholic I’d laugh my head off at the stories I read if they weren’t the plagerized thoughts of bigots from the last 500 years.
I pity you all who believe the clap trap of Joseph Chambers, Ed Wood and the rest of this company of unrepentent sinners.
jaimie
Dear Pastor,
Just another thought, Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life.
Satan is the Confusion, the Lie and the Death.
P.S. Ed Wood God bless you, for the Lord has filled you up with a sound mind, clear reason and an abundance of Faith.
jaimie
Ed Wood
Note to Jamie:
Thank you for the compliment. I can take the “hits,” but a kind word is always welcome.
God bless you and kin!
Ed W.
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lynwood sibley
I believe in Gen one God said let us make man after our image and likeness///god took the dirt and
breathed into it and man became a living soul////the trinity of GOD body soul spirit
for in Jesus was the GOD head bodily and our spirit conforms to the holy spirit and our soul conforms to GOD the father as we are a trinity